Talk:Esdeath/@comment-25278613-20140818054842/@comment-11550121-20140818064011

Wrong. If you are going to say this sort of thing with absolute certenty, then clearly you have not been paying attention. Esdeaths feelings for tatsumi is a vital point of the whole story, as well as the slight but evident changes it has made on her. It's all well and good to say she is a monster but you forget that she is a SOLDIER! Killin is part of her job, no, IS her job. Sure she goes over board but due to her living in the wild with beasts that would of killed her without a second thought, killing is what she knows and enjoys best since she has never known anything else. It may not excuse her actions but in the end, war is war and bad things happen. She also never said she would not betray the empire, and is solely loyal to it for her own purposes. Depending on the coming chapters, she may decide if she loves tatsumi more or carnage more so until then you can't say she won't betray the empire. Tatsumi never returned her feelings? No shit because she was an enemy, but she never knew he was, but despite that, tatsumi still made the offer for her to join an unless he was willing to return such feelings then she would of had no other reason to do join him. And tatsumi is actually flattered that she cares so much for him, and thinks so much of him. He even smiled at the thought but he is resolved to change the empire more than pursuing love. He was even saddened by the thought that they would meet as enemies. And she never said to kill him, she said that if it came down I them or him (kill it be killed) then they had to fight back, and even then, she had faith that he was not that weak and his will to fight and survive was a wonderful thing and believe they would meet again. As for killing each other's comrades, tatsumi had the resolve to kill the jaegers despite none of them knowing at that point he was really their enemy, even though he liked wave, he had no doubts e would fight him if needed. Not to mention the fighting happened on both sides so the jaegers have as much reason to not forgive them than anyone. And also, NEVER FORGET THAT NIGHT RAID ARE MURDERERS! They know this, they are prepared for their punishment! Even mein had the resolve to kill seryu, not for revenge (at the time) but because she was a threat. She understood that she was just doing her duty and that schelles death was a form of retribution. None of night raid hide it. Esdeath on the other hand is a soldier, who simply enjoys her job too much, but she has more legit reasons for killing than night raid who can be seen as moral evil while esdeath is more on the grounds of duty/enjoyment evil. And he is not so much disgusted by her sadism, disturbed yes but in the end, it's because he knew she was an enemy that kept him away from her. The whole relationship with mein is more than likely created for esdeaths sake more than tatsumi or meins. Now that she knows tatsumis allege nice and that he has a girl he likes, will she make the change? Despite knowing he was an enemy the whole time, she still protected him and hugged him, not caring about such things. Despite smiling at the thought of war, she turns sad when she thinks about tatsumi because he is not there. This is a critical point in the story so to say such a thing like its nonsense or will never happen clearly proves you have not been paying attention and are just biased. I say it's 50/50 for her to change, not for night raid but for tatsumi, and if rubboc actually cracks then night raid could be crushed to the point that tatsumi, akame and maybe najenda and leone are left while the rest could perish. And as for her forcing him to join her, if she was going to do that then why not do it before?