Talk:Murasame

Could Murasame be related to Muramasa?
It's just a possibility that occurred to me, but could the sword be inspired by the swords Masamune and Muramasa? --Aggression25 (talk) 05:49, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

No, that's nonsensical, Japanese doesn't work like that. Murasame refers to a type of rain and the verb has been used multiple times across other anime and manga series.NewGenTV (talk) 13:09, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

Trump card activation
After the new chapter was released, I wrote that Murasame's trump card is activated by killing someone who is dear to the user (based on someone else's edit that said a loved one had to be killed). Maybe this was a mistake since Tatsumi didn't die and it was never stated. The trump card seems to either activate by wounding someone dear to the user (which would normally lead to their death) or, more likely, is activated by Akame's resolve to kill even her loved ones if necessary. Shouldn't we change this on the page? I would personally go with resolve-based explanation.RCM9698 (talk) 22:36, December 12, 2016 (UTC)

It definitely should be changed. But I don't know to what, since I'm utterly confused as to what this means.NewGenTV (talk) 23:05, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

I guess I didn't make myself clear, I unfortunately happen to make that mistake quite a lot. What I meant to say was this: The trump card activation as described in the article at this moment (killing someone dear to the user) doesn't seem to be correct. Tatsumi didn't die, but the trump card still activated. Based on the manga translations, I came up with two alternate explanations. The first explanation is that a loved one must be wounded with the blade. This would normally lead to the loved one's death, but Tatsumi was able to escape this thanks to his unique situation (being fused with incursio). My second theory, which based on the text in chapter 76 seems more logical, is that the trump card is activated by Akame's resolve to even kill her loved one's if necessary. She doesn't actually have to kill them, as long as she is mentally prepared to do so if necessary. Murasame acknowledges Akame and allows her to use its trump card because of her conviction. Her  strong conviction is what allows her to activate the trump card. I hope this clarifies my previous post. Also, I do find it strange Akame claims that she has to throw away (and Esdeath says she has thrown away) her humanity to use her trump card. Her mental state doesn't seem affected by the trump card at all. RCM9698 (talk) 23:43, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

I'd go with adding both suggestions to the article with a more condensed and clarified statement as to what it's referring to. For all we know, it might be mistranslated.NewGenTV (talk) 01:28, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

The translation (if correct) only says : "The carnage...the slaughter...the Bloodshed... The countless lives she had taken before this moment... But it was now, regardless of circumstances, when she had once again trust her blade in the body of a friend. The first time it happend was when she first aquired  Murasame. If push came to shove, Akame had resolved herself to even kill her own little sister. This type of conviction is what led Murasame to srongly acknowledge her as the true owner of its cursed blade. Simply put, she had released its trump card" This seems to implicate that she can just activate it at will, which would make more sense than both my theories. After all, the other trump cards can be activated without restrictions. There are some side effects after activation of Murasame's trump card, but that's also the case with the trump cards of for example Susanoo and Koro.RCM9698 (talk) 02:10, December 14, 2016 (UTC)